Ray S. Wetmore (September 30, 1923 – February 14, 1951) was a U.S. ace of World War II. You can help War Thunder … The engine, while powerful, isn't powerful enough to propel such a heavy aircraft up high faster than say a D series P-51 or the BF109. Bf 109 pilots also note the small rudder when they talk about taking-off, but not when they talk about diving fast, at least on what I have read. Been playing other things for a few weeks, havnt really played since the new update, Anyways, i start it up, hop in my good ol P51D30, And HOLY ****< the rudder is EVEN WORSE THAN BEFORE (as in, non-existant), NORMALLY, I notice the rudder starts stiffening at 300mph, gradually worsening until its near non-existent at over 400mph, So in the mid 300 range, you were still ok, The rudder was annoying, but enough combined with roll to still get on target, At a mere 320MPH, TOTAL rudder lockup, ZERO rudder input, I even mashed my "Max Rudder" key to override the instructor, NOTHING. The main problem for the pilots of the earlier variants was a huge blind spot at the rear of the aircraft due to the canopy design. I couldn't find any discussion posts on it, which is why I made this one. Since the D-30 Mustangs have high repair costs, I was thinking of trying to get the hang of playing a Merlin Mustang with the P-51C. The most famous Mustang version was the P-51D with teardrop (or bubble) canopy. Use this link to get 3% off your entire purchase and a custom Phly emblem for your vehicles. The P-51D-5 currently sits at Rank 4 in the American line with an upfront cost of 820,000. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Spanish Civil War to today. In the market for War Thunder Equipment? It is … am sorry to tell you this but the p51d30 you knew and love was the broken one. It's only really Americans who say/believe the P-51 was the best plane of the war. The P-51D-30 currently the second P51-D model aircraft that can be purchased at Rank 4 (IV) in the American line with an upfront cost of 380,000 . Air frame size, the P-51 is only marginally larger than a 109G. Is it competitive? So, yes, I think anyone thinking the P-51 should have worse rudder performance based on rudder size to airframe size ratio is speaking nonsense. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Spanish Civil War to today. The fact that the P-51 rudder is not working in game with mouse aim controls is entirely due to a poorly optimized instructor that cannot coordinate rudder inputs with the rest of plane. but even still the p51 irl had a rudder control problem anyways. The difference in size and weight between an in game P-51 and 109 is not enough to warrant the difference in rudder performance when the P-51 has nearly twice the rudder that a 109 has. So in my memory the Corsair had a controllability few props can actually match. Snow sparkles in the hangar, so that means it’s time to celebrate New Year in War Thunder. Since I was occupied with shooting down a wildy moving FW190 I didn't pay much attention to my rudder, but this behavior is usally what indicates a bad rudder. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. With minimal fuel P-51D is about a third heavier than a Bf 109G-6 After burning fuel in the climb before combat, and towards the end of the match, it's closer to 20 - 25% difference in weight. (Team) Killing every bomber that dares to fly in my airspace. Nevertheless I totally agree that the rudder or rather the rudder control is broken. Someone posted nonsense without supporting evidence. While the Best P 51 is the H serie. Beyond that, if you've only got the P-47's and P-63's right now, and want to get the first Bearcat, do the Corsair / F4U line. Use this link to get 3% off your entire purchase and a custom Phly emblem for your vehicles. With minimal fuel P-51D is about a third heavier than a Bf 109G-6. Here is a guide to the War Thunder New Year calendar - let’s take a look! Most distinguish feature actually being able to still decently aim at 750kmH-800km/h. © 2020 by Gaijin Games Kft. In an RPG the Mustang would be a rogue, the damage dealer. The P51 D is kinda the golden child of the US air tree imo. The young lieutenant flew an aircraft bearing the legend “Daddy's Girl”. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Spanish Civil War to today. The North American F-82 Twin Mustang is the last American piston-engine fighter ordered into production by the United States Air Force.Based on the North American P-51 Mustang, the F-82 was originally designed as a long-range escort fighter for the Boeing B-29 Superfortress in World War II.The war ended well before the first production units were operational. The other one from the Thunder league is pure P2W BR 3.0 totally fair and not sealclubbing. Can confirm. The North-American P-51 Mustang was an American fighter designed in the early 1940s and is considered the best US fighter of WWII. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, Xbox One. The P-51's rudder was not "tiny" by any stretch of the imagination. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, Xbox One. Highly recommend if you can aim well. After burning fuel in the climb before combat, and towards the end of the match, it's closer to 20 - 25% difference in weight. The P-51A Mustangis a premium gift rank II American fighter with a battle rating of 3.0 (AB/RB/SB). I have fun with it. Yes i´ve flown the P-51 with cannons and the 51D is also horribly undertiered. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Spanish Civil War to today. Only notable difference is that the D-30 has 1880 ammo instead of 2080. How is it? 50 cal nerf gimped the P51's but they were never 'brilliant' in WT due to AB favoring 20mm and above so heavily in terms of damage models. Sorry about that. Same thing with several other planes. It was a special vehicle offered during the 2015 Thunder League as a reward for completing 5 Air challenges. atleast this is realistic and not like the ho229 which was solely based on allied GF players whining too much. This is easy to see by taking the P-51D-30 into a test flight, entering a dive to reach speeds of 800kph IAS, and manually inputting rudder deflection on your keyboard. #5. Not sure if this is related but I just flew the F4U at 5.0. P-51 Mustang is a 53% near-scale homebuilt replica of a North American P-51 Mustang fighter. The P-51A TL comes with a high-powered engine and with four 12.7 mm Browning machine guns. Better than the D5 and on a lower br. I admit having a overheating engine bug whatever you want to call it fair enough but having the D-30 at 4,7 is horribly undertiered 5,3 maybe even 5,7 would fit good. This article is a stub . Oscillating nose, diping its wings down left and right and overall very unresponsive following my aim. If you're not gonna post any sources that demonstrate what you're claiming, please don't post anything at all, or preface what you say with, "It is my baseless opinion without any evidence or facts to substantiate it that......". The P-51H-5NA is the last propeller plane in the USAAF fighter line. and it has a way better rudder than the P51D series. The rudder will be completely unresponsive with almost no deflection, and the nose of the plane will struggle to point where you want it to. The P-51H-5-NA is a rank IV American fighter with a battle rating of 6.3 (AB/RB/SB). Nonsense. The Thunder Mustang is a modern 0.75 scale replica of the P-51 Mustang.It has joined the ranks of the high performance P-51 kits alongside the Titan Aircraft T-51, which has a welded steel airframe with a secondary monocoque aluminum shell, the all-aluminum Stewart S-51D, and the full-scale, turbine powered Cameron P-51G The picture you shared above even demonstrates that, as both planes fairly easily fit inside a P-47s airframe. Discounts, sales and special events are waiting for you! You pick performance over 6 fifties. He joined the U.S Army Air Corps in 1941 at the age of 18 and was assigned to the 359th fighter group. War Thunder P-51D Guide by YourSATScore The P-51 D-5, D-20, and D-30 perform about the same so this guide should work for all 3 variants. if it is the instructor, then thats just another plane added to the pile. Published by Gaijin Network Ltd. under the exclusive license. Coupled with its manoeuvrability and acceleration deficits, the P-51 punishes any pilot who does not play to its strength, namely the top spee… War Thunder. They were corrected and then posted more nonsense without evidence. the current FM is far more realistic thanks to the fact it has a tiny and i mean tiny rudder. First the P-51 was accused of having a tiny rudder, when its rudder is nearly twice the size of a 109s. yes you are correct the p51 is larger than the bf109 and zero. It was then that the Royal Air Force requested the North American Aviation plant in Inglewood, CA to produce under license an export version of the Curtiss P-40 Tomahawk fighter for the RAF, known as the Hawk 81. it is still ok to fly, but rudder control feels slower than before the recent update. The P-51D is, undoubtedly, the shining star of the USAF branch. 50's used to be great for pilot sniping and setting fires but they've been roundly nerfed since. It was widely exported to countries in Europe, Asia, Africa and South America. Meanwhile P-51, Bf 109 and A6M sizes are quite accurately listed in wikipedia and other more reliable sites. Start turn fighting or head-on-ing and you'll die like a dog. Download War Thunder NOW! In War Thunder, the long-awaited P-51H will be making its way to the fourth rank of the American aviation tree with the upcoming update 1.71 “New E.R.A”. Well it doesn't climb that badly in War Thunder, but it's nothing amazing. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One. Extremly precise and fast aligning nose at almost any speeds. - http://tinyurl.com/PhlyThunder War Thunder gameplay in arcade with the P-51 loadout playing with Baron! War Thunder Realistic Gameplay. Quite the contrary it was to make landing and take-off safer with the higher torque engine. it has the same engine as P51D5, but with a lighter frame, so it outclimbs, outruns, and turns better than D5 at any alt. Nonsense? Empty weight, the planes are very similar, which your picture also shows. the problem is that both of those planes are smaller and lighter than the p51 (its almost like the p51 is years younger than those two planes people keep forgetting just how small the bf109 airframe actually is). 132 23 December 2020 P-51 climbs best at around 18 degree as Ronin said. Dimension is difficult to calculate, but I guess it's around 30% larger, though that's not so relevant. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One. Yeah it def locks up more, very easy to notice against ground targets strafe. yes you are correct the p51 is larger than the bf109 and zero. I think you are confusing War Thunder with reality :Ps . She was broken before the rudder patch. That's besides the point, though. GPU: GeForce GTX 1660CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9900KF CPU @ 3.60GHz메모리: 64 GB RAM (63.94 GB RAM 사용 가능)현재 해상도: 2560 x 1440, 144Hz운영 체제: Published by Gaijin Network Ltd. under the exclusive license. Weight-wise, the P-51 is only much heavier when fully loaded with fuel. Keep in mind that IL-2 and War Thunder are far from being alike. That's besides the point, though. downloads here - war thunder forum post -> click here <- Hello! The British mustang has an Allison engine that refuses to climb above 5k. Press J to jump to the feed. Powered by Invision Community. so welcome to the club of not being abled to aim. The North American P-51D-5 Mustang is an American single-engine fighter which was in service with the U.S. Army Air Force notable for its role in long-range bomber escort missions. The W.A.R. Quickly darting in and out of combat to deal devastating blows, the P-51 in War Thunder is a DPS main, too. there is a reason the H has a massive rudder. After creating several types of camouflage for the P-51 Mustang, decided to make a short video showing each one of them while listening a background music of a radio broadcast of 1944. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One. And from what I tested it doesnt it that case. P-51 Mustang Realistic Battle, America's Escort fighter. An earlier atte… The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Spanish Civil War to today. Then repeat the test, but instead of manually entering rudder input, simply try to move the plane with the mouse. In the market for War Thunder Equipment? © 2020 by Gaijin Games Kft. At least up to 5k meters. the problem is that both of those planes are smaller and lighter than the p51. The D-30's not worth playing anymore.... too high repair cost at 16k, almost 17k if you put on the G-suit and the new MGs modifications which I take off to reduce the repair. The worst feature of the P-51 now is climb rate and acceleration, it will bleed speed at a 17 degree climb, while the much heavier p-47 can mantain 20 degree climb for a good span of altitude. With its sleek laminar-flow wing, classic American M2 Brownings, high-visibility cockpit, and immensely powerful engine, the P-51 is most definitely a force to be reckoned with. When that was corrected it was claimed the P-51 was larger and heavier as a justification for the difference in rudder performance in game. In Simulator Battle, however, I played p-51d-30 today and I felt it became harder to fly due to nerfed rudder control. It is obvious the P-51D's rudder with mouse aim should be much more effective, and the instructor for the plane needs to be greatly optimized. 4 years ago. With minimal fuel P-51D is about a third heavier than a Bf 109G-6. War Thunder American Realistic Battle (featuring P-51 Mustang). The best Bf 109 is the G2/trop. Really good IMO. It's nearly twice the size of the 109G rudders. 4x.50 can be annoying, but that's about it. Lmao good luck with that. Recently spaded mine. More important would be P-51's higher induced drag, which I also sadly fail to find in numbers. So I was in for a big surprise once i chased a Fw190D in horizontal flight and F4U felt like a boat. Someone posted nonsense without supporting evidence. He achieved his first 4 victories in the sky while flying a P-47 Thunderbolt before making the switch to a P-51B and then a P-51D-10 named 'Daddy's Girl'. The P-51D-5 Mustangis a rank IV American fighter with a battle rating of 4.0 (AB), 4.3 (RB), and 5.0 (SB). I'm also tired of people who always repeat Tiger I had unreliable transmission and nobody ever shows their source. well, im not sure for p-51d-30 in ab and rb. The origins of the P-51 Mustang fighter can be traced back to 1939. START PLAYING!! War Thunder CDK Camouflages Missions ... After retraining to fly a North American P-51 Mustang, a 20-year-old Wetmore achieved the title of ace, shooting down two Bf.109s on May 19th, 1944. I visit props only every now and then these days but I flew Corsairs quite a bit all in all. Featured playstyles are Boom & Zoom, repeatedly diving on enemies and returning up high, and Boom & Run, flying into danger zone, picking of a target and retreating, all while running at top speed. While retaining all features the earlier versions may offer, its powerplant is upgraded. The fact it should be that way doesnt have to mean it applies to War Thunder. 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